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JOHN BAKER does not even bother to ask what country
this might be: JOHN BAKER Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 Goodday , I am looking for your cooperation in building a Tourist Hotel or Real Estate in your country. I am sorry if this is not in line with your business.I need an experienced person like you to assist me to set up , develop the project and assume responsibility of ownership as chairman but will be bringing in profit /distribute profit monthly or annually. However ,I got your email information on your country's website contact list. your immediate reply will be highly appreciated and I shall give you more information on this project. Please contact me at my private email address;johnbaker95@excite.com U. A .E OFFICE.. Magnet Ventures Ltd Address: P.O.Box No. :4456, Dubai, U.A.E LONDON OFFICE 11 wellington square, Cheltenham, GLOS ( United Kingdom ), GL50 4JU Thanks and God bless. mr John Baker Note: 11 Wellington Square is a business center that includes things like the Oxford University student union, social services, architects, etc. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR This sounds like an interesting opportunity. Please let me know how I can help. JOHN BAKER Subject: MORE INFORMATIONS ON ESTATE / HOTEL INVESTMENT... Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 [Line breaks added to protect the breathless reader. There weren't any.] Dear Unkindly, Thank you for your urgent response to my project, actually you don't need to be a professional Hotelier to assist us. What is our interest is trustwothiness, sincerity and honesty.Management will be easier. The fact is this. I am a Director of a Property Investment company called MAGNET VENTURES LTD Our interest is to invest in any moving Real estate project in any country with the sole aim of making profits. We are interested to either build or buy already made Hotel of 5 star standard in your country Capital. We will be very interested to own one in your country before the end of this year. We are ready to commence the transaction this month if you agree to assist. All we needed is a reputable citizen of your country, one who is trustworthy, honest and Sincere, who will do what we agreed upon when the fund is transfered to his account. We wanted a citizen who will take care of the buying of property, building and furnishing the hotel. When the hotel is completed and it starts functioning, the person will assume the position of the CHAIRMAN of the Hotel and will run the hotel on our behalf for certain number of years. Whatever benefit/profit realised will be shared in the ratio of 7;2;1 meaning that the profit will be shared as follows; 70% for us, 20% for you and 10% will be used to maintain the hotel, pay staff salary etc. We do not want to come as Foreign Investor to your country directly hence we sort for a trusted Indigene whom we can front as the Chairman of the project to avoid oustrageous tax demand from your government. We shall send to you our agreement or terms and conditions of our operation for your signature before we commence. The total funding of the project is the sole responsibility of MAGNET VENTURES. We have already mapped out US$60,000,000.00(Sixty Million US Dollars) to take care of the project from the start to completion. This fund will be transfered into your bank account gradually to be used to acquire and complete the 5 STAR HOTEL. US$15,000,000.00 will be the Ist Instalmental Fund to be transfered to you to start the process. But before we release such amount to you, you must be a completed Registered member of our Company-MAGNET VENTURES and our representatives shall arrange to meet with you face to face and discuss and sign all necessary documents before we release the fund. As soon as you have completed your membership, we shall immediately transfer the fund to you and you shall start the project. You shall be reporting to us on the progress of job on the project on Monthly bases. Apart from your share in the Hotel, you as a member of MAGNET VENTURES is entittled to a monthly allowance of $12,000.00 per month until the Hotel starts functioning. We shall expect the completion period of the Hotel to be 18Months.Your monthly allowance will stop after 3 months of openning the Hotel.You shall start receiving 20% share from the Dividend till the end of the hotel though changes and reviews will be on Annual basis. Please read careful and ask your questions where you are not cleared. Call me as soon as you receive this mail and have agreed to be our International Partner. Thanking you and awaiting your swift response. Yours Faithfully, John Baker. Note: Good to see they've wasted their time on so much boilerplate text. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, I am glad you have chosen to contact me with these details. I have extensive experience in the retail industry, particularly in the fashion industry. Are you familiar with Fashion Bug? I started there, down at the Rosedale Mall. Anyway, I know enough to know that 10% of the income isn't going to cover the expenses here. With hotels you usually figure on a 8 to 10% PROFIT. So you book $50 million a year in rentals then you would figure on a profit of $4 to $5 million. That's before taxes, so you'd figure on clearing $2.5 to $3 million. I am not a child so I am not interested in an "allowance". If there is a salary involved then we will put that into the contract, along with benefits, etc. Please let me know when you will be in DC and we can meet there; I'll line up an attorney down there so we can make sure you are protected and I am fairly compensated. Since you're not in the US I'm assuming you'll need someone to handle the bribes, fees, etc for the local officials? Or do you handle that directly? There's nothing like opening a hotel and have it be picketed by strikers or have the trash pile up outside when the garbage folks refuse to show up because they haven't been paid. JOHN BAKER Subject: PROGRESS REPORT. Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 Dear Unkindly, Thanks for your mail and the contents were noted with keen interest.Your suggestion have been directed to the appropriate authority for immediate action. We are happy to note your willingness to work with us as a principal partner of Magnet Ventures Limited,Infact your advise have gone along way to boost our confidence in your ability to handle this project because we beleived in quality. Going by your message it seem that you did not understand the position of the principal partner,you are the co-owner of the business who protect our interest as you rendered full services to the organization. It is your duty to employ staff,award job contracts,and manage the funds,though under the supervission of the overall management. You will only receives a salary of $12,000.00 per month and on completion of the project you will entitle to 20% of the total profit after tax.Though there will be other benefit you will derive as the member of the Magnet Ventures Limited. The funds for the project will be provided by Magnet Ventures as stated before but you will manage the funds which will be transfer to you after due process of your identification and registration as a full member of the company in cordance to our policy.The process of transfering the initial fund to kick off the project will commence immediately your Membership registration exercises is completed. Therefore the Welfare Department shall contact you for more advise as soon as posible. Confirm receipt of this mail. Thanking you and awaiting your swift response. John Baker. Note: When someone offers you $12K a month, spit on it. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, I'm sorry, but I am not willing to take a pay cut. $12,000 a month is nothing. Regards JOHN BAKER Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 Dear Unkindly, Thanks once again for your mail.The management of Magnet Ventures Limited expressed their happiness over your confidence in your worth and is very interested to work with you. Our steady meetings to discuss the issues you raised has proved that you are very experinced and mature in this business. As regards the $12,000.00 per month ,this has been cancelled because we beleived that you are worth more than that . As you are aware the total amount mapped out for the project is $60million which you will manage till the project is completed . A SALARY OF BETWEEN $25-$45,000 is being debated for you,But at this junture you should prepare yourself to travel to our head office in London for registration ,identification and sign for the initial fund to enable you set up the project.Take note that our registration fee is $7,500.00 only meanwhile you will be requires to come along withis fee to complete your membership registration. This forum will also give you the opportunity to know more about the company and give more suggestion/advise as there are many other benefits you shall derive being a member of the organization. Again you are asked to provide your full communication details. Thanking you and awaiting your swift response. Mr.John Baker. Note: The lads hate this kind of response: UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, Let me know when you decide to be serious. Regards JOHN BAKER Subject: call me for more details. Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 Dear Unkindly, Infact was not impressed after reading through your short message.The contents were not enough to motivate me as i have beleived in your previous mails. Please in the light of this kindly call me for more details. Mr.John Baker. +44-7040122186. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, You contacted me because you know who I am and what I can accomplish. Then you repeatedly insult me with offers of trivial compensation. Tell you what. Let's meet at one of the other hotels your group currently runs and discuss this further. Absent that I can only conclude that you are not serious about engaging a professional such as me. JOHN BAKER Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 Dear Mr.Unkindly, Thanks for your mail,It is unfortunate that you have missunderstood us or misinterpret our intention . I want you to know that there is no body insulting you as you claimed. This is a transaction which we implore you to handle with understanding,it baffles me that you could not call me to enable me give you more light on this issue. How do you want us to meet,whereas we have already asked that you should prepare and travel here in london with the membership registration fee.I will like you to come up and see things for yourself and it is when you come that you will know the extistance of the Magnet Ventures LTD but right now it seems you still doubt. Please try to call or send down your working telephone numbers so that i may call you. Infact some members of the company are not happy the way things are going as it was expected that by now everything would have taking effect and they even think that i have something in common to benefit from the total initial fund that are to be release to you for the project but I still have to convince them that you are capable and mature enough from the tone of my conversation with you. Please let us finalise this as the company have mapped out the sum to be wire to your account as soon as you come and withness the existance of the company.In the meantime we will be awiting to hear from you and expect to have your travelling arrangement to meet together. Thanking you and awaiting your swift response. JOHN BAKER. +44-7040122186. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR John, Exactly where in London is the hotel that your company manages? I would like to see how your company operates its facilities before further considering your offer. and three days later: Your silence has convinced me that you are not a serious man. JOHN BAKER Subject: MAKE EFFECTIVE DECISSION. Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 Dear Unkindly, We have received all your mails but the way you are reasoning is far away from what we expect to hear from you,and we beleived from your first response that you are a responsible and a competent to handle this project,but your mail kept surprising us. We have told you to let us know your travelling arrangement to meet with our represetative in London or Holland but you didn't said anything concerning that.We asked you to call our london office and make your inquiries you have not done that,we asked you to give us your telephone numbers for effective communication we have not seen any.We have started looking at you as some one who is not serious becuase we cannot continue to pamper you to under take a project which is going to be beneficial to both of us,for all I know doubt and trust does not work together,if you are interested to work with us let us know so that we will know the forward.If you are still ready to handle the project inform us on your travelling arrangement to meet our representatives in London or Hollond where all doubt shall be addressed,as you have been told earlier concerning the membership registration you will be expected to come along with your membership registration fee so that everything will be concluded and the initial fund will be signed by you. We are waiting to hear from you soonest, Thanking you and awaiting your swift response. Mr.John Baker. +44-7040122186. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, As I previously stated, I will be happy to meet with you at the hotel your company manages in London. Please provide me with that location and we can call etc to make the appropriate travel arrangements. It is my hope that your erratic behaviour to date will not carry over into face-to-face dealings. As soon as you provide me with the location of your London hotel I will make my travel arrangements and notify you of such. Or are you expecting me to look up your company's properties via title searches? I suppose I could do that but it seems an unnecessary delay when you could just tell me where they are. Note: This will be news to the real owners of these hotels: JOHN BAKER Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 Unkindly, How are you today and family?the board of director are not even happy with me and thought you are not serious over multiple questions which is not necessary and yet comes from you. I wondered why you are so interested to know some of the Estate or Hotel by which we manage whereas you supposed to table your question just as you come. Please to make this project kick off without much waste of time and money kindly contact our property Manager.Below are some of our properties contact him to help you with more clarifications. Mr..DAVID SAAL Tel.0044 --8701356175 my fax number is --------- 0044 --8701356175 E-mail;davidvansaal@yahoo.com 1) FOUR SEASONS HOTELS AND RESORTS 7 OLD PARK LANE, LONDON W1K 1QR LONDON UNITED KINGDOM. 2) THE CLARENDON HOTEL BLACKHEATH LONDON MONTPELIER ROW, BLACKHEATH,LONDON SE3 ORW UNITED KINGDOM 3) AVIS HOTEL ALL EN SUITE ROOMS 33 RODWAY ROAD,BROMLEY BR1 3JP LONDON UNITED KINGDOM. get back to me as i will be away from office to commission some accomplished project. As soon as i'm back i will reply. Yours , John Baker. davidvansaal@yahoo.com - got it. Actually, Four Seasons is owned by Four Seasons Hotels and resorts ("FSHI") of Ontario. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, As you know, I only work for the best. Asking to see sites that your company manages should not be a surprise to you - it should be EXPECTED, and anyone who does not ask the same questions of you should not be considered serious. As I am planning to travel to London on vacation anyway, I'd be delighted to tour one of your existing facilities with you - meet the staff, see how the office works, etc, and get a feel for what we can do here that would exceed those expectations. Please let me know when you or Dave would be available to do a full tour of the Four Seasons and I will arrange to meet you there. At that time we can also complete what other business is necessary. JOHN BAKER Subject: CONFIRM. Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 Dear Mr.Unkindly, Thanks for your mail.Please confirm your Telephone and Fax numbers for effective communications. Thanks, Mr.John Baker. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, I am trying to schedule my travel to London with a stay at the Four Seasons. You have failed to tell me when you and Dave will be there. I do not understand your inability to provide this data. Please do so immediately. Here is my planned itinerary: 1 - Arrive in London. 2 - Check in at Four Seasons so I can experience it as a customer. 3 - Meet with you and Dave in the executive offices there. 4 - Full tour of the Four Seasons, including all physical plant areas. About 8 hours. 5 - Meeting with the managers of the Four Seasons, roughly 4 to 8 hours. 6 - Stay overnight in the Four Seasons. 7 - Meetings with head chef, head of resort activities, lead concierge 8 - Meeting with you and Dave regarding financing and project plans 9 - Meeting with you and Dave regarding property locations in US and project plans. That looks like about 2 full days of meetings plus a day or so to experience the place as a customer so I can get a feel for the level of service we'll be giving the guests. Please let me know exactly when this can be arranged as further delays will merely serve to increase my travel costs. JOHN BAKER Subject: CONFIRM.. Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 Dear Mr.Unkindly, Thanks for your mail.Please confirm your Telephone and Fax numbers for effective communications. Thanks, Mr.John Baker. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, The only thing we have to discuss is your inability to provide me with dates for our meetings at the Four Seasons. I cannot take calls while I am doing my regular job as I am a professional. My fax number is ###, that also works for voice mail. Don't expect a call back until your behaviour improves; I have other opportunities under consideration. Because of your erratic behavior and inability to answer simple scheduling questions I have now had to push off my travel another week or risk losing thousands in unrefundable tickets. I sincerely hope you manage the rest of your ventures better than you have managed this effort. Now, provide the details you have failed to provide thus far. I await your return email with those details. Enter Dave Daveson - wasn't his name supposed to be David Van Saal? Details, details. DAVE DAVESON Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 Subject: Attention --- Mr Unkindly Dear Mr Unkindly, Compliments of the day.Thanks for your concern and committment towards our reputable company investment proposal to you especially your recent decision to pay our Company (Magnet Ventures Ltd United Kingdom)a visit, that is a welcome development. We the members of board of directors of Magnet Ventures Ltd will be delighted to welcome you in our midst any time you fix a travelling date. Mr Unkindly,with due respect, on behalf of other members of the board of directors of Magnet Ventures Ltd U.K we request you to send to us a photostated scanned copy of your international passport,your personal direct telephone number and fax number for easy communication with you.We demanded the above informations for easy correspondence and also to know the identity of our proposed partner. Immediately you send the above listed informations then we can now fix a date when you can visit our Company in England.Once again on behalf of members of directors of Magnet Ventures Ltd UK,we will be delighted to have you in our midst any time you visit London. Note -- Feel free to call me any time. Best Regards, Mr Dave daveson Magnet Ventures Ltd UK 0044 -- 798 --4993721 Now, you may note that Dave isn't using the email address John Baker provided. Oh, and his last name is different. And he starts out by requesting a copy of a passport But let's not quibble over such small things. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Daveson, I am baffled by your email. Your partner Mr Baker contacted me directly because I am well-known in the field of hotel resort management. Your email appears to say the opposite - you sound as if you are not familiar with me? Why then would Mr Baker contact me? I suggest you contact Mr Baker, as he can tell you my background. My full name is UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR. As Mr Baker should have told you, I am presently working 18-hour days to complete a resort launch, and I do not take outside calls during the day - there simply is no downtime and it would be completely unprofessional. If you need to reach me, email is the only professional way I can accept during the day. And at night - well, I am only getting 6 hours to myself at night so I choose to spend them sleeping at the moment. I'm sure you've been through launches before so you will understand. I have previously sent my contact numbers to Mr Baker so if you need to send me a fax please get that number from him as it is not on me at the moment. I have sent my itinerary to Mr Baker. I will be in London next week. Please arrange the meetings to begin on June 14. I will be arriving at the Four Seasons ahead of that date so I can experience it as an unknown visitor rather than an honored guest. I look forward to meeting with you and the Four Seasons management staff starting on the 14th. Please see Mr Baker for the meeting agendas. Note: Here's the first request for funds, 7500 pounds "stelling" JOHN BAKER Subject: ARRANGEMENT FOR YOUR VISIT. Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 Dear Mr.Unkindly, This is to acknowlege the receipt of your e-mail,we apologize our inability to response promptly to your mails due to office pressure.We are happy to note that you have fixed your travelling schedule for 14th june 2005 and our company is ready to welcome you. I want you to understand that it is very honourable to belong to the MAGNET VENTURES LTD as you are coming for registration as a member of Magnet Venture Ltd you are very important to us because your sucessful registration qualifies you as a Principal Partner to commence the project on behalf of the company in your country. As you may have been told, it is very necessary that you scan a copy of your international passport as a means of proper identification.You are also requires to come along with 4 copies of your passport photograph including the registration fee of SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED Pounds Stelling to complete your registration procedures . Please note that after the completion of the membership registrations you will stand and sign the initial mobilization fund for the project. Your Travelling arrangement has been presented to the board of directors and Mr Daveson has been instructed to meet with the legal department and contact you with the final arragement towards your visit and other protocol. We are looking forward to having you in our company. Thanks for your co-operations. Yours Faithfully, Mr.John Baker. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, Please let me know the names of the people I will be meeting with starting on the 14th besides yourself and Mr Daveson. I will bring my standard identification papers. Note: Not content to wait for 7500 pounds, Dave hits me up for 2500: DAVE DAVESON Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 Subject: Attention --- Mr Unkindly Dear Mr Unkindly, Compliments of the day.i write in respect to your proposed visit to our company(Magnet Ventures Ltd) and your subsequent induction/registration as a member of our reputable conglomerate. I have met with the attorney of our company in respect to your registration as a member of our company and i was sincerely briefed by the attorney that he has to prepare the neccessary documentations which includes a memorandum of understanding which we are going to sign with you and endorse it at the probate division of the High Court of Law here in London in advance against your proposed visit to our company. I advise you to send the sum of 2,500 pounds sterling to the attorney so that he can commence the registration exercise in advance since from the attorneys explaination to me he(attorney) needs some time to get the documentations well prepared and endorsed. Best Regards, Mr Dave Daveson Note: They want ME to pay for THEIR employee??? UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Daveson, This is a highly unusual request. As the attorney works for you, he is already salaried. Are you saying you are expecting me to pay the salary of someone I have never met??? Please explain, as I cannot conceive of a situation in which your request makes sense so further explanation is needed. For example, what is the attorney's name? It seems to me that if I need legal assistance there I should simply hire an attorney there myself. And if you are looking to save corporate costs (who isn't?) I'd recommend you find attorneys who charge less than 2500 pounds sterling for a single document! Cheers DAVE DAVESON Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 Hello Mr Unkindly, Compliments of the day once again.i write to explain more in respect to the 2,500 pounds sterling which the attorney charges as part payment in respect for his earlier preparation of some documents which includes a memorandum of understanding and memorandum/deed of trust which you are going to sign with us when you visits our company next week. The earlier preparation of the above mentioned documents is neccessitated because of time factor in which the documents are going to take in preparation and endorsement, because the documents also requires to be endorsed in the probate division of the High court of Law here in London. Secondly,as a matter of policy as enshrined in the memorandum and articles of association of Magnet Ventures Ltd UK,the memo and articles states and i quote" Any intending person wishing to be admitted/registered as a corporate member of board of directors of Magnet Ventures Ltd shall bear all the monetary expenses to be incurred in the course of such registration and any other documents thereof.And such registration has be to be conducted by Magnet Ventures Ltd attorney under its retainership". The attorney in question is under our companys retainership,but in issues that has to do with registration of new members,you have to bear all the financial expenses that may be incurred in the course of your registration,that is the position of affairs in Magnet Ventures Ltd as stipulated in our memorandum and articles of association,it is non negotiable. You are advised to send the money immediately to our attorney so that he can commence in earnest your registration exercise. Best Regards, Mr Dave Daveson. Note: Cool! There are articles of association to quote from! Let's see the rest of them. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Daveson, 1. I will bring the necessary funds with me. 2. Please send me a copy of the articles of association. As I plan to be joining as an associate I think it would behoove me to know of any other obligations that will be subsumed. Thanks DAVE DAVESON Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 Hello Mr Unkindly, The articles of association of our company will be sent to you as when due.A reputable company as in the calibre of Magnet Ventures Ltd can not just release its articles of association because an intending member demanded for it. We can only send our noble companys articles of association to you immediately our attorney commences your registration processes,then we can assume you as our member in the making. You have to send the 2,500 pounds to the attorney immediately since the attorney needs time to prepare and endorse the documents prior to your visit to our company, then the balance of your registration fee which is 5,000 pounds you will come along with the it when coming next week. Please Mr Unkindly,we will not like to drag this issue of you sending the 2,500 pounds to our attorney.i advise you to go straight and send the money to the attorney because in business time is of essence. Best Regards, Mr Dave Daveson. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Daveson, Perhaps one day you will tell me who I am supposed to be sending money to? As for the articles of association, I would be happy to sign a nondisclosure agreement so they can be released to me. Since you are insisting they serve as the basis for a contractual agreement, this is standard practice. Let's have it all out on the table so there is no basis for misunderstanding. I certainly don't wish to waste multiple days of meetings with you and the Four Seasons managers. Please do not delay. The resort I'm working on now will be hosting a series of travel agents over the next week. I'm sure you understand how critical this time will be, so my time will be greatly limited prior to my departure for London. I am looking forward to finally meeting with you and Mr Baker on the 14th. DAVE DAVESON Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 Hello Mr Unkindly, i wish to inform you that if you can not send the money to the attorney for earlier preparation of the documents and endorsement there is no way we can see you as a serious intending partner. You have the time to send email but you doesnt have the time to call or at least give us your contact telephone number so that we can talk to you in person. Non of the board of directors member will waste his precious time waiting for an intending partner that is not serious because we have alot of more serious and pressing issues to attend to. Best Regards, Mr Dave Daveson. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Daveson, I am emailing you from my portable while I am in a meeting. I certainly cannot make phone calls while I am in a meeting but I can usually send emails in this fashion. You can understand this. As I have previously given Mr Baker my full contact information I do not understand your tone. *I am still waiting for the non-disclosure agreement to be sent so you can then send the articles of association. *I am still waiting for you to tell me to whom the money is to be sent. Neither you nor Mr Baker has provided any information in this regard. In summary, you are complaining about me not doing something that you have not instructed me to do. In view of that I find your tone to be inexplicable. Please send the NDA so we can get on with this business, as I will be there next week and you still have not sent me the documents that are the basis for the contract. Kind regards Note: Oh good, more imaginary people to talk to... JOHN BAKER Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 Dear Mr.Unkindly, Thanks for your mail dated Mon, 6 Jun 2005 and your question about those you will be meeting on your arrival.After the board meeting this morning it was agreed that you will be meeting with the following board members; 1) Mr.Michael Moore 2) Mr.Allan Lloyd 3)Mr.Frank Silver 4)Mr.Brown King 5)Mr.Tony William. 6)Barrister Natalie Dann. Other board members will be indisposed at the time of your visit but will meet with you at a subsquent meeting with you which may likely be in the United State of America. So it is very important that you send the 2,500 pounds sterling to the lawyer Mr.Natalie Dann to facilitate the preparation of the necessary papers before your arrival.Please note that this is part of the total registration fee send it through western union money transfer for easy services and send the payment information for references. Thanks for your co-operations, Yours Faithfully, Mr.John Baker. NOTE: It is very strongly suspected that "Natalie Dann" is the real name of a person affiliated with the London office of Western Union. Very Very Strongly suspected. Live in London? Try calling the Western Union office and asking for her... UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Western Union? Are you serious? Also, what members of the staff will be present? For review, here is my planned itinerary: 1 - Arrive in London. 2 - Check in at Four Seasons so I can experience it as a customer. 3 - Meet with you and Dave in the executive offices there. 4 - Full tour of the Four Seasons, including all physical plant areas. About 8 hours. 5 - Meeting with the managers of the Four Seasons, roughly 4 to 8 hours. 6 - Stay overnight in the Four Seasons. 7 - Meetings with head chef, head of resort activities, lead concierge 8 - Meeting with you and Dave regarding financing and project plans 9 - Meeting with you and Dave regarding property locations in US and project plans. Please provide the names of the resort managers and others I will be meeting with, as I plan to observe them in their roles ahead of time. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, I still haven't heard back from Mr Daveson with the documents he promised. It's critical to have the non-disclosure in place so we can be freer in our discussions and can freely exchange ideas and background documents for contracts. Kind regards DAVE DAVESON Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 Hello Mr Unkindly, We wish to inform you that we are still waiting for you to send your proposed visit travelling schedule by this we mean a scanned copy of your travelling flight ticket to us to convience us the board members that you are serious about the trip. We have not received a phone call from you all we have been doing is only emails that does not look business-like and does not show seriousness on your own side in an investment project of this magnititude. Our companys attorney demanded for just common 2,500 pounds for earlier preparation of some documents and its endorsement this you have also not yet come up with it and you claim that you are coming over to London to meet with the board of directors of Magnet Ventures Ltd. I wish to inform you that with your lack of seriousness towards our investment project with you,we are starting to be skeptical towards your capability to handle this investment which we are about to entrust on you. I also wishes to inform you that Barrister Natalie Dann will be attending a seminar organised by international bar association in The Hague Netherlands starting from today so you will be meeting with Barrister Micheal Declan an associate partner with barrister dann.Barrister Declan will now be in charge for the preparation and endorsement of the documents since the principal partner barrister dann is away for a seminar. You can send the 2,500 pounds to ---- Receiver -- Mr Micheal Declan Address -- London England. We are waiting for your urgent response. Best Regards, Mr Dave Daveson. NOTE: There is no Michael Declan in the London bar. The bar's membership list is online. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Daveson, Thanks so much for your email. I will be happy to address your concerns. We wish to inform you that we are still waiting for you to send your proposed visit travelling schedule by this we mean a scanned copy of your travelling flight ticket to You never asked for it. Again you seem to take issue with me not carrying out tasks that you never requested. I will get that to you shortly. I changed it around last night so I could spend an extra day at one of the other hotels your group manages in the area. Expect it by tomorrow. As a personal note, I wish to point out that I have fully complied with ALL such requests. Harboring them within yourself and then flaming me for not fulfilling unrequested things such as this is not helpful or healthy. Our companys attorney demanded for just common 2,500 pounds for earlier preparation of some documents and its endorsement this you have also not yet come up with it That's just not true. I have the money but you have not told me the address to send it to. Where should the payment be sent? I can't just send it to the London post office. I will point out AGAIN that the payment is part of a contract, and the contract documents have STILL not been provided. If those documents are not available, there is no contract. With no contract, there is no cause for ANY payment. Kindly defer further insults of my professionalism until after you have resolved your open issues. To be clear, I am still waiting for you to provide the following: 1. A non-disclosure agreement. This has to be in place before our meeting anyway. 2. The articles of association. If you wish, these can be deferred until after I have returned to you to the signed NDA. Please fulfill these *Standard* steps without delay so I can send the money as you have *finally* told me who its recipient should be. In the meantime, I will be sending my schedule within the next 24 hrs. Please fulfill your obligations in the same time period so things are not further delayed. Kindly note that I am in meetings for the bulk of today so my accessibility to check mail etc will be quite limited. Kind regards JOHN BAKER Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 Mr.Unkindly, We have received your message,I am surprised that you keep demanding one thing after another and will not provide simple identification particulars requested from you.We have putten everything in place towards the success of your visit.But your attitude does not help matters,Our lawyer demaded for some part of the registration fee in other to procure some papers ahead of time but you have ignored that. We know what it means to get this papers here in London and we know it will not be easy to obtain within two or three days on normal fees,that is why it is imperative for the lawyer to secure it before your arrival. As regards for the documents Mr.Daveson promised to send accross to you,he has been discourage because of your attitude towards the whole process.On our parts here we are very busy and we will not waste our time on unfruitful ventures. Everything you want to know is here at your disposal and very soon you will become one of us,therefore do the needful and encourage the board of directors to put more interest in your coming because some of them have started loosing faith in you considering the amount the company is entrusting on you. Mr.Daveson told me that he has sent you the name of the lawyer who will handle the registration and preparation of the documents,you are advised to send him the required 2500 pounds sterling for the documentations. So we are still looking forward to receiving a copy of your international passport scan by attachment for proper identification. Awaiting to hear from you soonest. Yours Faithfully, Mr.John Baker. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, I FINALLY heard back from Mr Daveson but he is being very unprofessional. He seems to be deliberately withholding standard business documents. I cc'd you on my reply to him so he will not distort my email when discussing it with you. I have repeatedly told him that I will provide everything requested as soon as we have a standard non-disclosure agreement in place - that way you know I won't divulge anything from our conversations and I know you will protect my Private Data such as passport etc. This is STANDARD business practice but Mr Daveson fails to act on this requirement and then turns around and makes unfounded charges! His unusual behaviour makes it even more critical that I receive those documents as soon as possible so I can see EXACTLY what role the partners like him play in this corporation. Do you have a copy of the articles of association? Without those documents, and with Mr Daveson behaving so erratically, it is very worrisome indeed. I will be sending my itinerary to you and Mr Daveson shortly. I hope his behaviour quickly improves to an acceptable level. Oh, and he changed the name of the person to send money to but still didn't provide an address. I sincerely hope that the other associates in your company are more professional than that. Kind regards UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Daveson & Mr Baker, Here is the link to my private page that contains my latest travel information. Please keep the credit card information private. Note: (naturally, the url pointed to a page that does not exist so one can claim it contains whatever one wants.) Time to send the money to ... JOHN BAKER! How can he complain about that? Oh, that's right, it's not his name and he's in Nigeria. What were the chances of that? UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, I have sent the WU transfer to your attention. I attempted to send it to the person Mr Daveson listed but no one by that name is a member of the legal bar in the UK. So, to be safe, I sent it to your attention instead. I am off now to pack. I have attached a scan of the transfer sheet from Western Union. I have cc'd Mr Daveson on this so he will not have a basis for further slanders against me. *I am still waiting for the documents Mr Daveson must provide!* I'll be traveling tomorrow - as you undoubtedly saw already - to visit family on the east coast and then to the UK on Monday. Since you have not provided an agenda for my stay there, let's meet for breakfast at 7 AM at the Lanes restaurant in the Four Seasons on the 14th. I'll try to check my email from the UK on Tuesday. I'll be mostly out of reach, so if you need to reach me just leave a note at the desk. NOTE: See my itinerary for the name I will be checking in under in order to avoid tipping off the staff to my presence there. Kind regards Note: Mostly illegible JPG of a WU page attached. JOHN BAKER Dear Unkindly, Thanks for your mails. l dont know why you decided to make things difficult for yourself. You refuse to obey simple instruction. l dont know the type of partner you are going to be. Please if you are still intertested in this business go and correct the western union to the name that Dave gave you when you come you can table any auguyment you may have. Again dont forget to scan a copy of your int. passport as earlier adviced. l am waiting for the correction of the western union informations. Thanks John Baker. Note: Sure, we'll be glad to "table that auguyment". Too bad anyone can find http://www.barcouncil.org.uk/ UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR John, The person Mr Daveson listed is not a member of the bar in the UK. So I sent it to you instead. See the receipt. I've attached another copy for you. A scan of my passport is included with the travel information I already sent you. I'm leaving for the airport in an hour. See you on the 14th. NOTE: Attached several Megs worth of the same illegible WU receipt JPG. JOHN BAKER Subject: AWAITING THE CORRECTIONS... Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 Dear Unkindly, Thanks for your mail,I am very surprised that upon all my mails you have not been able to follow up the directives given to you.Well,I can't understand why you felt reluctant to follow simple instructions,again it baffles me why you could not send the passport attchment by Jpg the same way you did in attaching the western union payment slip. Dear Unkindly,you are making things very difficult for both parties.This is business and we cannot work together if you don't follow instructions.Nobody is forcing you to participate in this project which i know will be of benefit to both us,but the way you do things seemes as if you are not working for the progress of the project.I have never seen where they send money in the name of an organization,it is a particular person that collect it for whatever purpose it is mearnt. You were asked to change the name person to the one given to you earlier by Mr.Daveson that is our rules.. He will prepare the documents for you in advance,and to send a scan copy of your international passport to me but all this you have not done,i don't know how you expect me to summon the board of directors to come and meet an intending partner we don't know.What time do you want the lawyer to get the documents ready and other things. Please you are adviced to comply in accordingly to the above instructions to hasten up the process,because nobody will come to meet you since we do not have the proper identification papers,and the name you said you will check in with.In the light of this ensure that you provide us all this useful details as demanded.When we meet you can argue who is and who is not a member of the British Bar this is not supposed to disturb our project. Personally,I cannot go to cash the money sent because of my tight official schedule,change it to the name given to you by Mr. Daveson and when you come we shall sort out any other differeces. Meanwhile we await the changes as we prepare to welcome you.Do this to save time. Thanking you and awaiting your swift response, Mr.John Baker. Hello from London, guvn'r. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, Greetings from London. I believe this message fully addresses all of your concerns. I look forward to meeting with you tomorrow at the Four Seasons, promptly at 7 AM at the Lanes restaurant in the Four Seasons. 1. I called the Western Union office and they have informed me that you did not pick up the money I sent. Why did you ask me to send money in that way since I got here faster than you could pick it up? I did not send it to the person Mr Daveson named because Mr Daveson clearly stated that person was a lawyer in the UK. My cousin used to be a member of the UK bar so I know you can look up its members at http://www.barcouncil.org.uk/ Mr Daveson's person is not listed there so I took the safe way out and sent it directly to you. I don't know why Mr Daveson would have been misled into thinking that person was a bar member; that's his problem, not mine. I see no reason to take unnecessary risks with your money, and I feel you should appreciate this creative and safe solution to the problem and risk Mr Daveson caused. If you are not able to retrieve the money yourself today then I will cancel the transfer and retrieve the money myself tomorrow. Your choice. 2. "why you could not send the passport attchment by Jpg the same way" - I did. I gave you full access to my travel files that includes my passport JPG, travel itinerary, credit cards, identification papers, etc. I felt this was an extraordinary step on my behalf, and you should appreciate the TRUST I have placed in you thereby. 3. I am still - STILL - at this late date waiting for Mr Daveson to provide the documents he promised many days ago. I have sent you 2500 pds and have spent over $5000 on travel and lodging for this trip not including the nonbillable time I am spending here. I have invested a considerable amount of money time and effort here. I look forward to starting this new enterprise with you and look forward to discussing these opportunities with you tomorrow. I spent time earlier today going through the Four Seasons and I have a number of ideas and recommendations that should make our time together fruitful. I hope that despite Mr Daveson's errant assistance and his inability to provide the documents that we can complete this phase of our business and venture forth together. I am still jetlagged, so I will retire now and see you fresh in the morning. I have cc'd Mr Daveson so he will have the meeting time as well. Kind regards NOTE: Shockingly, the meeting didn't happen. Obviously this is their fault. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mr Baker, Mr Daveson: I sent you my flight tickets. I sent you my passport. I sent you my full home address. I sent you my phone number. I sent you my ID card. I sent you 2500 pounds sterling. Then I got on a plane and came here. In return, you sent me nothing. In return, you failed to show up. Please explain yourselves. NOTE: Or to hear them tell it, it's my fault. DAVE DAVESON Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 Hello Mr Unkindly, compliments of the day.We received neither any of the below things you listed apart from a typed western union payment details you claim that you were unable to send it to Mr Micheal Declan because he is not listed in the Bar association web site.There is no way you can use the name of a company to send western union. Take note that the bar association members listed in the web sites are only elected executives of the bar association,there are other members of the bar that are not listed.you should be able to understand and believe that those few members of the bar association listed can not be the only lawyers in the UK hence you slander on the person of Mr Micheal Declan is not fair. You came into London and claimed that you will check in with a different identity and you want us to associate or identify with some one who is afraid to reveal his identity. please bear in mind that all the members of board of directors of Magnet Ventures Ltd are all men of reputable integrity,we also associate with people that has identity. You claimed that you arrived London yesterday and you did not deem it fit to call Mr Baker or me(Mr Daveson)and you expect us to meet you.if you are an organised business man you should be able to potray yourself as one. We in Magnet Ventures Ltd,believes in natural justice,equity and good conscience and any person that goes contrary to this philosophy of our dear company we tends to disassociate ourselves from him. If actually you are in London,do call me on -- 0798 -- 4993721. Cheers, Mr Dave Daveson. Note: Since he's worked up with righteous indignation - after HE stood ME up, let's remember - let's throw something else on the fire. The nonsense about the UK bar is too stupid to argue anyway. The IP traces to a cybercafe group in London. The following included the name of a street the cafe is on. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Mugu, You are a poor liar. I will come by your [street name] location today. Listen for the sirens, mugu. And let's send some love Mr Baker's way as well: Why would you work with an idiot like "Dave Daveson"? You must really be desperate. He's a more pathetic 419er than you are, and that's saying something. Your father was a goat and your oga sleeps with your mother. DAVE DAVESON Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 Hiii, You are the liar. Note: Man, that was a pathetic retort. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Small small little slacki sufferhead, your father was a goat and your oga sleeps with your mother. You embarass your mother, she cry when she see her son is a 419er. U just a beggar. DAVE DAVESON Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 hey, i cant understand what you are talking about. Note: Luckily, we can help! UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Here, I will translate for you: "Your father was a goat" = Your father was a goat "Your oga sleeps with your mother" = That guyman who controls you f**ks your mother up the ***. And she loves it. "You embarass your mother" = You shame all of your ancestors with your criminal behaviour. "she cry when she see her son is a 419er" = You suck. "U just a beggar" = You are too stupid and lazy and criminal to get a real job. You suck at 419, little boy mugu. Oh, and let me translate that for you too: "mugu" = You. And that should be the end of it, but NO. Dave showed up two days later, apparently the victim of an identity crisis. He's using the exact same internet cafe as before, so all of this Johannesburg stuff is nonsense. [Read on carefully now, Scamoramans, this is really something.] DAVE, aka TONY ANTHONY to the UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR From: "tony antony" <tonysouth@myself.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 Subject: big bros bros, my name is tony,i live in johannesburg south africa,one of my guy gave me ur email add,i have alot of jobs i and my friends wants to send off-shore,i want to know ur terms of working b4 i can send the jobs to u. my email is : tonysouth@myself.com Antony Nwankwo. After verifying this came from the same cafe in London, another baiter contributed the reply: UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Nwanne how far? in fact its great to hear from ur side. Dis runs u mention we go handle am no problem . I can say we dey ur guys for any offshore levels so whatever u need wash wash or come and carry just ask brother and we go chop from dis job in jesus name amen. Online is possible but its never easy to make am drop bcos these magas dey wise so is hard abi? Well dis is all for ur infos so make we stick together and reach our throne as God shall reward us amen. Sha dis offshore levels na 70/30 share to cover my guys wey follow jobs locally here . Abeg let me know ur stand soon b/cos I can feel it something big is coming my guy. Until I hear from u. DAVE, aka TONY to the UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 Hii, Bros i am happy to hear from you big bros,.please big bros,give me your job details like your job name,security company name and job telephone number so that i will forward it to one american maga who is a big farmer in Texas U.S.A.please big bros send this informations immediately to me so that i will forward it to the american maga to contact you. big bros,this maga has good money,i believe we will smile from this job.The maga has only dropped some little change($2,500 usd) attorneys fee,that makes the job alot more easier.The maga is too loyal. Big bros lets leave the sharing formula to 40(me)/60(you).i believe that is a fair sharing. i will send the history of the job to you immediately you send your job details to me. Big bros if you handle this job well i promise i will link you up with other serious job men in johannesburg.i have alot of good things we will do together but lets start with this job because this is a paying job. Big bros please send the job details as soon as possible to me. Yours faithfully, antony nwankwo. NOTE: Sure, let's send him personal details. Right. DAVE, aka TONY Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 Hello big bros, i am very happy to get your mail.i sent a mail to yesterday.i have a serious american maga wey don drop small change,the maye is a big farmer in texas usa but i wan carry am go off-shore,please send your job details to me so that i will send it to the maye.job details like - your job name,job telephone number and your security company name.i will send the job details to you immediately i recieve your job details. i can accept 40(me)/60(you) sharing formula.i am waiting for your urgent reply. my telephone number is -- 0027--8373831888.please send your own telephone number so that i will call you for face to face talk. from,antony nwankwo UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR My guy, let us go 50/50 ok and fair. i go sit maga Sunday in California for wash wash so travel now and will be back late Monday nit. Email me job and i deal with maga next week. My name "Henry Barrett" of Investment Capital Group when banking, "Simon & Barrett Law Office" when lawyer. Tell maga i am settling a huge case this week ok. I will send u phone for secure call b/cos most phones too easy to trace and bug. Send me address for u and I send phone with unbreakable security and we talk and share in jesus name. DAVE, aka TONY Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 Hello, 50/50 is ok.i am waiting for you tel number so that we can talk face to face ok.we will smile with this job in jesus name amen. antony nwankwo UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Nwanne no mail from you for days. Wash-wash client is life maga. I will send u phone for secure call b/cos most phones too easy to trace and bug. I no use unsecure phones for guy, too many ways 4 others to listen. Send me address for u and I send phone with unbreakable security and we talk and share in jesus name. DAVE, aka TONY Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 big bros, i have been using this email for some time as my private email address and nobody has complained about it.this email is my private email and when i send mail to my guys that has yahoo add nobody complains.waiting for the infos i demanded.delay is not good in job. antony nwankwo UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR I still waiting 4 address where u want phone sent. We use email til u have a secure phone that cannot be listened by anyone. I had job eaten by guy in Edo who use standard cell and since changed to advance encript no problem. I bot 10 dem and sent out 6 already to my guys u want to do phone job with me u tell me where to send one b/cos dey already pay for themself n i not going have small small boys steal magas from my partners u see. bros no big maga gon keep looking for you in Spam folder wer i found u today. I just try help u look professional. My whites who sit magas too real picky bout dat. DAVE, aka TONY Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 big bros, some times if i read your mails i cant understand what massage u are trying to pass.big bros please be more clearer in your future mail.big bros if we can work together i think u have to be more clearer.i have sent my number to you withuot hestitation but send ur own number so that we can start working together,today u will say one unclear thing the next day u will say another unclear thing.i am open minded that is why i sent my number to you. still waiting antony nwankwo UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR anthony i tol you I do not talk to guys with unsecure phones. I am not going to call your number until you have a phone that the SAPS cannot listen to. I will send a phone to you so we can have a private call and then I will call you only on that phone and you can call me on my phone. I do not want any calls from guys except on the secure phones. There is nothing unclear about that. I tol you I buy 10 of these phones and these are what my partners use and no problem. Just tell me where to send it to you for free and stop delaying so we can start job together. DAVE, aka TONY Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 Hello My Brother, i was link up to u by my guy here in south africa so that we can do business together as brothers but it seems to me that u have another thing in mind.i have been in this job for quite some time,i am a straight forward guy, that i call u big bros is cos of my respect to a fellow human being not for any other thing.first u was telling me to open another private email add cos i contacted u for biz ,again u are telling me that u will send a secured phone to me,what an insult.do u think if such secured phone exist at all that u will be the first to know b4 me? i cant understand what u think of me.if u send a secured phone,will u also send a secured sim card?,do u think u are talking to a baby,that game is an old game that u are not suppose to play on a guy that has good intention to do biz with u.what a funny a way of starting biz relationship from ur side.i am having doubt if ur the kind of off-shore job man i was meant to believe. antony nwankwo. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR F* you, mugu. Your father was a goat. Maybe you go s*** white d**** for money, you too stupid to have real job. DAVE, aka TONY Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 FOR INSULTING AN INNOCENT MAN,I SAID FROM TODAY TILL THE REST OF YOUR LIFE,LACK OF MONEY(POVERTY)AND LACK OF CHILD(CHILDREN)WILL BE YOUR PORTION.ALL YOUR WAYS WILL BE SLIPPERY AND DARK,SO WILL IT BE.GO AND MARK MY WORD. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 You are just too f*ing stupid to understand how you shame your ancestors by being such a pathetic fraudster. Go prostitute your ass for money - that would be a step up from the squalor you have chosen for your life. Enjoy jail. They like little 419er boys like you there. DAVE, aka TONY Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 MAY ALL THE BAD THINGS OF LIFE BE YOUR PORTION TILL THE END OF YOUR MISERABLE LIFE. UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR NOTE: The following email was sent to tonysouth, davedave4545, and davidvansaal: Your wife is embarrassed to be related to you. When you die no one will remember your name and your wife will be free to marry a real man who doesn't do 419 like you mugu. Mugu, you swear like a girl. Crawl down the street naked and maybe small children will throw pennies at you. Meanwhile, another email from another lad. He was instructed to send further details to davedave4545@yahoo.co.uk - which of course is the fake Dave Daveson's account. The new lad wasn't happy with the reply he got from davedave4545@yahoo.co.uk, so he forwarded this exchange back to me: This was the new lad's first mail to Dave: ARONA SMITH (new lad) to DAVE DAVESON DEAR UNKINDLY CONTRIBUTOR THANKS FOR REPLYING MY MAIL. PLEASE,LET IT BE WELL UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS NOT IN ANY WAY A JOKE OR CHILD'S PLAY, BUT MUST BE TREATED WITH ABSOLUTE CONFIDENTIALITY AND SINCERITY. FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION AND UNDERSTANDING,THE ROLE YOU ARE TO PLAY IN THIS TRANSACTION IS TO STAND AS THE NEXT OF KIN TO THE DESEASED PERSON AS I AM GOING TO PROVIDE TO YOU ALL NECESSARY INFORMATION CONCERNING OUR LATE CUSTOMER AND THE TEXT OF APPLICATION LETTER OF CLAIM WHICH YOU WILL FILL OUT AND SUBMIT TO THE BANK BY E-MAIL TO ENABLE THE BANK PROCESS YOUR APPLICATION LETTER FOR APPROVAL AND TO RELEASE THE FUND INTO THE DESIGNATED BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER WHICH YOU WILL PROVIDE TO THE BANK FOR THIS PURPOSE. (BLAH BLAH BLAH) THANKS AND GOD BLESS YOU ABUNDANTLY AS YOU WORK WITH ME IN ABSOLUTE CO-OPERATION AND STRICT OBEDIENCE TO MY INSTRUCTIONS FOR PERFECT SUCCESS AND MUTUAL BENEFIT IN THE TRANSACTION YOURS SINCERELY, DR.ARONA SMITH. NOTE: Dave didn't like that much, and he replied to fellow scammer Dr Arona Smith, who forwarded it to here. We'll let Dave have the final word DAVE DAVESON to DR ARONA SMITH Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 To: "arona smith" <arona_smith858@yahoo.co.uk> FUCK YOU.YOU SON OF A PROSTITUTE. |